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Episode 6

Your Swamp Guide Chuck Ellis and Truthslinger Tim talk voter fraud, single party Democrat rule, and much more in this episode of Muddy Waters.

Whoa. Yeah. Oh yeah. Woo! Everything. Everything gonna be alright this morning. That's good, That's right. Oh yeah. And now, your swamp guide, only on TNN.

There we go. And Good afternoon, everyone. Check out, let's hear your swamp guide on muddy the water podcast. And this is where we help you understand, first of all, how muddy the water is, and then help you understand how to navigate it. And I am your swamp guide. And with me, I have as usual, Truth slinger Tim.

How you doing Tim? I'm doing beautiful. How are you Chuck? Good despite the insanity of everything that's going on in our world I'm you know, I'm keeping my spirits up surprisingly. Maybe it's some of that optimism from Bobby Charles Oh, man, got it. Got it. He was great, man. I really enjoyed that I think it was I heard him at a low point And, I needed reinvigorating in the battle.

I think what we got, what just near 15 days to go or something like that. And we're in the home stretch, right? And so it was good to get a little wind under my sails emotionally because every day it just seems like it never ends. Especially in what you do and what we're trying to do with this is highlight things that are going on in the world.

And a lot of the things that are going on are not positive and not good. And so it's hard to stay positive while working. When you go out and spend some time putting up lawn signs, for instance, around town to encourage people to vote a particular way to have those signs, Taken down and desecrated and, and have people give you the middle finger and stuff like that.

It's very tough, but at the same time, a number of friends vibe, we've been going around doing that the last couple of weeks. And, one of the things that's actually been really encouraging is how many people are actually supportive of what we're doing and how many people will stop by and be like, Hey, can I get a sign?

Talking Trump signs here and it's encouraging to know how many people are actually with us. The sense, especially down here in Portland, where it seems like everybody's a liberal, the reality is there are a lot more people that are tired of what's going on than I think we give credit for, because they seem to control everything.

And so it's hard to believe. But the truth is it? People are just being quiet about where they stand. It's like that. I think Bobby Charles was telling the story last time about the 2016 and 2016 was the year where if you would, talk about what people were saying in social media, the majority of people were more voting for Hillary, but who actually, when people actually showed up to vote, Donald Trump won.

And the reason is people were not public about what they were doing because of the way in which people try to either, shame them, ostracize them, look down on them, again, a good friend of mine recently was talking about not wanting to give money to the Cumberland County Republican committee because he didn't want.

And he, if he was concerned that if his name was on anything, that people would use it against him and it hurt his ability to do business, which is a little bit of a cowardice on his part, but at the same time is partially understandable because he's got business. He's got kids to feed and, in, in this kind of an environment, like this is how people are treated if they stand up for truth.

It's hard to be positive, but yeah. They're fascist tactics or authoritarian tactics. And, when you talk about all these things that we took the terms, you throw them around communism, fascism, but this is just, it's gaslighting, it's intimidation, it's, one step away from, neighbors and we were there already with COVID 19 when neighbors were telltaling on each other with, lines and stuff like that.

And yeah, it's become hostile, which is why I keep trying to focus personally on this ecumenism movement. people that are looking for ways that we have enough in common between us. And I was watching the and we're making great strides. With the Amish community in Pennsylvania, and they're basically saying, Hey, we don't agree with, evangelicals or even conservatives, except for about 80 percent of the time.

But right now, 80 percent is real good. And whatever's coming from the left is crazy. Okay? There's just, we can't vote for that. Yeah, they're just too radical. That's the issue. It's one of the interesting things and I was going to get to this later, but why not just talk about it now is just how, the Democrats are basically what you're hearing from them, that if you listen closely and you're paying attention is they want single party rule.

Like the only hope for America is single party rule. And it's like single party rule is absolutely what you just said earlier. It's fascism, right? Especially if that's the Democrat party, right? I'm registered as a Republican right now. I'm running for office as a Republican, but the significant majority of my adult life, I was registered on enrolled because I don't like the party fighting between parties and this party is better than that.

Like all this stuff, but like right now, like the Democrat party just isn't an option if you believe in Liberty. If you believe in freedom if you believe in power and control and, force vaccine thing, stuff like that, which is what they, did they wanted to do in 2021, 2022 fortunately the Supreme court said, no, they did do it with federal workers, but they didn't force it other places because the Supreme court told them that they couldn't, but if they had been able to.

They would have. And so many people were in favor of that. That is fascism. That is not freedom. That is not democracy. That is not representative Republic, a constitutional Republic. Like we are a democratic Republic. That's not what that is. And that's, and, but they want single party rule.

And it's a party in particular that is so uniform and you can't even disagree from within the party without getting knocked out. out like RFK, Tulsi Gabbard and others. So it's scary how, like how out, not only what they're doing, but how blatant they are doing it. Yeah. Yeah. The entire party structure has been redefined and see that, I think that we've had a false dichotomy for so long.

Where do you think we lost so many of our rights? Was during the patriot act and that was under bush. Okay, that's so right. Yeah, absolutely A lot of this stuff started right? So it's been this unit party system. And I think now what's happened is It's like the liquids have come apart and like in a lava lamp, when the wax comes apart, it goes, and then all of a sudden the two other blobs come together and form, like they've reformed the parties have.

And essentially the left has become the party of big business and telling you how to live your life. And, basically treating you like a cog all the while gaslighting you and tell you how much they can't give a shit about you and care. And then there's the other side that's demonized, which is the quote unquote right of the conservative party.

And that's where the far yeah. Yeah, there's always the far it's never right. It's always the way extreme right. Wait, you're a moderate Democrat. You're on the far right. But it's nice to see that those parties I think have realigned and The party of joy over there constantly spreading joy, with their magic wand.

It's ridiculous and I think people are starting to see through that. And so you're seeing this whole party realignment. It's refreshing and I hope something happens with it. It sticks. Yeah. Ultimately what we hope for as, even as a conservative and as a, as somebody who's largely voted Republican for most of my life.

The reality is I don't want a single party system either, just cause I'm a Republican. I don't want the, I, we need the back and forth between the part we like, whether we need a two party system or more than a two party system is a whole nother story, but right now, like what we need wasn't working until Trump came along and broke it because either side was acceptable.

Whoever got voted in on either side. The military industrial complex and all the powers that be, whatever that you want to call it, whatever flavor of conspiracy soup you eat. Those people, it was okay. Whether this guy or this guy, cause we're going to have the same wars. We're going to keep everything going the same way we want.

It doesn't matter. They're manipulatable Trump on the other hand. And that's where the whole thing came to a screeching halt. And again, there are a lot of people out there and I don't have a problem with having more parties. I think having more parties could be good. I think that that this system, could work, but in order for it to work under the current situation, you need reform.

Sorry, I hit my spacebar. Not a problem. But yeah, in order for the two party system to work, we need reform within the Democrat party. Like Martin Luther, who is the great reformer his goal when he created the reformation and created Protestantism as a result, not himself, but with others he wasn't trying to destroy the Catholic church.

In fact, he was trying to reform it from within and part of what happened in his movement of reforming, essentially creating the Protestant reformation is you had what's called the counter reformation, which ended up also being good for the Christian church. There were some reforms that needed to be made, and there were other people who believed that that didn't leave the Catholic Church, but they ended up, in order to try and save some of the people that were leaving, they ended up recognizing, no, we need to make these reforms.

And even though he left, it was something that was ultimately good for good for Catholic, Catholicism in the end. In a lot of ways some people might disagree, obviously, but this is what we're hoping happens in this situation. We're not hoping that everybody just wrote Republican for the rest of their lives.

We're hoping for more parody. We're hoping that the Democrat party recognizes that they've gone too far. And obviously, as a conservative, I hope it's a shift back. And a more conservative direction, a more middle of the road direction. Cause one of my favorite, podcasters out there is Russell Brand.

And one of the comments that he's made that I really appreciate is our battle here is not left versus right. It's the middle versus the periphery, right? The reality is we're not looking for extreme on either end. The majority of people want a, a normal life. We don't want radicalism. Like some of the things that are being pushed in the current administration.

Anyway, speaking of radicalism, do you want to queue up that that, that video on that? We can have some fun conversation. Sure. Apparently something happened here. And this is this in Maine? This is in Maine, right? Yeah. Yeah. This is a clip from the the second, the first congressional district what do they call them?

Wow. Debate. There we go. The debate. Yep. And this is just a moment where event, eventually Ethan I forgot his last name again. But he, Ethan Alcorn, he comments that Shelly Pingree is is what is the term monologuing? No, it's not monologuing. It's what's the term when you're just speaking so that nobody else can speak?

Oh oh, filibustering. Yeah, basically he calls her out on filibustering. But anyway, this is one of her little filibusters. We'll call it where she just goes off. And this is a small clip from that that I thought was interesting. And I'm like, what in the world is she talking about? So I want to make sure other people see it and hear it.

Democrats speak. So a warning it's Democrat speak. We lost 60 percent of our working waterfront this year. Many communities are still trying to clean up. Many businesses are still trying to rebuild. We lost 60 percent of our working waterfront this year. Many communities are still trying to clean up. Many businesses are still trying to rebuild.

No. She just whipped that right in there. I'm sure she said a whole lot of other stuff, but she just it reminds me of when I heard the clip of Al Gore back in the day saying You know, he's saying a list of things that they did. And he's saying we, we took the initiative and invented the internet.

And I'm like, you did what you did. What, excuse me what are you talking about? And this is another one of those things. What are you talking about? We lost 60 percent of our working waterfront. I'm pretty sure if that happened. Somebody would have heard about it, like some level with the amount of like news and information I and some other people that I know consume in a day, I just don't think I would have missed that.

What was the docks or the ships? What is she talking about? No, the docks or the ships or, I'm surprised we didn't see some poor lobsterman, weeping about his boat or his, I don't know what she's talking about exactly. They're weeping because of Noah, but that's another story.

Yeah, but yeah, no, like I, I'm not really sure what she's talking about. I think she might be referencing a short term loss when there was that natural disaster, that storm. But, and I think she was trying to tie that to global warm, global climate change. I don't call it warming anymore. But yeah, this is just like every time there's a, there's one of these things.

They're going to, they're going to throw it at global climate change is the problem. And they they think they try to, Pretend that they're the only ones that care about the environment when the reality is Republicans and conservatives, we absolutely love the outdoors. We love the environment.

We want to maintain it. But we actually want real solutions, not not solutions that just line the pockets of the friends of the Democrats. These people with the wind and solar companies, wind is the biggest fraud. I think of all is, it's just. Completely so unreliable. But I was really glad Bobby Charles talked a lot about that on the last podcast where he, spent time talking about how the reality is we're never going to become in a place where we're always going to rely essentially on fossil fuels because it's just the other options are just not reliable and don't produce enough energy.

I think we could increase other things by looking at nuclear, but in, in all reality, we're never going to be able to completely go away from fossil fuels until maybe there's some sort of a discovery, but electric vehicles is not the answer to every problem. Battery technology is going to be it.

And our battery solutions currently suck. Okay. And so that therein lies the problem. And I'll tell you, I'm off grid right now. And I will tell you that I've had solar and it blows up here in Maine. Okay. Especially in the winter. Now it's windy as hell up here. And I thought about making a wind turbine, but I'm not going to make something that's 30, 40 foot in the hair.

Fortunately up here, I think I can actually get away with it because of where we're at in our particular place to make like a barrel. Turbine and actually get generate some power out of it, but it's not reliable and I'm telling you the batteries, you have to go really expensive.

They're not cheap and I went with less expensive marine batteries and they go bad and you're constantly messing with it and it's never the way it needs to be and it doesn't really work as well as it should. Unless you spend a lot of money and not to mention the storms. Did you see the storm damage in, I think, Texas and a couple of other places, man, where a tornado just rips through right through the middle of it.

And then hail storm damaged one in another place. And they're full of toxic chemicals that all leach back into the ground. Yeah. No, again I'm it's almost to the point where I'm so tired of the conversation about electric vehicles because it's just so obvious if you're looking at it the whole process holistically that at the with the current technology, this is not a feasible solution to shift everybody to in the near future.

Not to mention the fact that like, When you get into vehicles, this is one of my pet peeves in general, because it gets at, and I wish that I need to get somebody on who's got some more expertise in this field. But like, when you look at the things that are required in order to sell a new vehicle, right?

A new vehicle has so many requirements that are not like necessary. They're all things that they're like data shows that this reduces deaths and things like that. And it's okay, I get that. But. Is that a situation where we need to mandate it? What are what are the other factors?

What are the other things that are happening? Do you remember the third taillight? Remember the third taillight? That's a good example of that. It's a great example. And what's interesting is they did the data, they studied how having a third taillight, I remember this from business school, actually from from college where I studied business and they were talking about how, when they did the initial studies.

It showed that the basically if a vehicle had three lights, somebody was less, was more likely to see it and stop. And they claimed that was because it had three lights and it was, but it was primarily because very few vehicles actually had three lights. And so because it was unique and different, people noticed it more, but now that every vehicle has it, nobody notices it and it has virtually no impact again.

Yeah. And then there's the requirement of a backup cam. I thought of this specifically again, recently, because I was driving my neighbor's car, which is a completely fine car, no problem with it. Good car should be on the road. Cars like this should be able to be sold in America, but you can't buy a new vehicle in the United States of America that doesn't have a backup cam.

And I get it, like I see the value, but you have to think about who we're actually hurting. By not by forcing people to buy vehicles with all these things that are You know good enhancements, but shouldn't be required in my opinion and who you're harming are the poor, right?

You know the people who are already having a hard time in being able to afford a used vehicle. And now you add on that well, now all the vehicles are going to have to cost so much more because every one of those little restrictions and requirements adds to the cost. And so the automaker can't lose money, right?

So it ends up being that the cost and if we looked at data, we'd see how Insane. The increase in cost of vehicles are, which part of that is, supply chain stuff. Part of that is inflation, but part of it is that they continually add on the requirements of what you need to have in a vehicle to be able to buy a new vehicle in the United States of America.

And it's just, it's oppressive. And it, again, it gets in the way of people starting out or people who are more poor being able to buy a new vehicle. And so now as a result of your great ideas, they're driving worse. Vehicles. It's not because they can't afford the better ones. It's not just the cars, Chuck.

It's the same thing in the entire appliance industry. For example, if they raise the efficiency of a water heater and say, all right, look, I'm sorry, but we can no longer have standard water heaters that just blow, the fire goes up the tube because of gravity. And it goes out, and there's a baffle inside, and the water gets hot, and so on and so forth, and it shuts off, and it's eighty five percent, efficient, or eighty eight percent, or whatever.

And they say no, we can't have that anymore. They all have to be ninety two percent or better. Which means they now have to become condensing. They have to take out the latent heat out of the flue gases, right? And they have to squeeze that moisture out to turn it into water, right? That means you have to have a fan.

Before you didn't need a fan. All you have is a thermocouple to run the water heater, right? And it makes its own electricity, keeps the valve open. Should the pilot go out, poof, it goes out and your water heater won't light. So you don't blow up. But now, all of a sudden, you have to have a water heater that has a fan.

What do you need when you have a fan? You got to have electricity. You got to be hooked to the grid. Do you understand now it's the same thing. You've now taken away alternatives for people. What about high efficiency washers? What about high efficiency toilets that don't flush by the way? And the high efficiency washers, they don't work well.

And the dryers don't dry the clothes as well. It's just. Everything they say they're improving, are they really making our lives better, or are they making it, like you said, less affordable for normal people to even have a dishwasher, and even when you get it, it doesn't clean the gook off, because you have to have this much water use because of California.

Yeah, no, absolutely, this is the point. This is why conservatives talk about deregulation, because there are, Unnecessary regulations. But then they say things like you want people to die. And it's no, I want people to be able to live. I want people to be able to afford to live in this world and to be able to make those decisions.

And yeah, they can be options. You can still buy a vehicle that has a backup cam. For instance, you shouldn't have to be required to do that in order to buy a new vehicle. Like the idea that should be required to me. Okay. It's just it's wild. And again, that's just an example, but there are tons of things like that in the new vehicles.

Like you can't get they probably are going to stop making these, but one of the updates that I think they had when I switched from my, I had an older And I got a new one. And now I have a a RAV4, but my first CRV was like a 2012 or something like that. Or and it had normal cruise control now cruise control.

Is that like really fancy stuff on these newer vehicles where it has to be able to detect the vehicle in front of you and the speed that they're going. And if, in the, and if you get close enough, it'll then match the speed of the vehicle that it's going and, all this stuff.

And again I'm not saying that these. Types of advances aren't good and don't have some benefits, but to require them is where I draw the line again, going back to the insurance agency comes along and goes, you're going to get a better rate, man. You got to go buy that car that has that backup cam.

And it also has that super duper fancy this and that and everything. Look what you can't buy a car now without a damned alarm. And you hear them going off everywhere because nobody knows how to use them because everybody's lost their key fob and so they're getting in their car with the other key like me You know, but we're all paying for that shit and it's a bunch of racket what happens nobody pays attention You hit the panic button on a key, who is going to come help you?

Nobody. And nobody pays attention, but also because of a lot of these enhancements, they're trying to make, they're making it so that you don't have to pay attention when you drive. Oh, that's a good idea. And, it's not and that's. Because it's going to take care of it on its own.

It's going to tell me when I need to break. If I need to break, I don't have to worry about it. I can just go back and play on my phone. And this is what people are doing. And so anyway, it, like again, over regulation bad. I think we need to, I think we need to appeal it back a little bit and make people's again, more personal responsibility, more ownership and more options for me to be able to do what I need to do.

Yeah, I think so. Yeah. Do you want to? All right. So do you want to talk about illegal voting in the election? You want to talk about that now? Look at a little, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Let's talk about it. Yeah. All right. Do you have a, do you have a clip or? Yeah, I got a couple of clips, man.

So we got about two or three minutes. And so we've got, this was about a week ago, so this is not new news, but. I think it's very much at the heart and core of what we're talking about because this Shows you how insane and the insanity and of what we live in today Okay, and just to set this up is what this is they got a box in virginia, right?

We're glenn young and his governor and people check the box and they say i'm not a citizen or I am a citizen Or they leave it unchecked. There's three options there, right? Yeah, and You And so they're removing these people from the roles. And guess what? The Federal Department of Justice is suing the state of Virginia to say you can't do that because you started doing it like two days past some deadline or some nonsense like that.

So that's what's going on in the news and Jake Tapper's having a discussion with Glenn Youngkin about that. So let's watch that and talk about it. This is a law that's been on our books since 2006. It was a law that was signed by then Democrat Governor Tim Kaine and it requires our election process and governors to use DMV data when an individual self identifies as a non citizen and there is a match with that person on the voter rolls.

to then notify that person that they have 14 days to affirm that they're a citizen or not. And if they're not, then they are removed. This process has been in place since 2006. We just had recent Democrat governors like Terry McAuliffe and Ralph Northam use this exact same process within the 90 day period because it is individualized.

An individual starts the process by self identifying as a non citizen. And therefore, as governor, I have an obligation, no discretion, to then run the process to notify that person through our registrar that they have 14 days to clear it up, and if they don't clear it up, they're going to be removed from the voter rolls.

The big question I have is, given the clarity of the process, The constitutionality of what I just described both at the federal level and the state level and laws at the federal level and the state level that not only require me to do this but are focused on the fact that these are individual steps that start with someone identifying as a non citizen.

Why is it that anyone could argue that a process that removes non citizens off of our voter rolls is anything else other than common sense and constitutional? And that's my frustration with this whole process. Which is it started 25 days before the election. a presidential election.

They could have started it a long time ago. We would have sorted this out because I firmly believe they are wrong. But this seems far more political than otherwise, simply because of the fact this has been going on since 2006, according to law, and they chose 25 days before an election in Virginia in order to assert something which really is inconsistent with the process that we're doing.

Yeah that, but then it goes on two minutes later, and then we can talk about it after he wraps it up. I've got another clip that goes on. Why not just honor that 90 day period? Let me just first begin, it's anything but a purging program. It begins with someone identifying themselves as a non citizen.

And I guess I would posit back to you, do you think that non citizens, when they've self identified as a non citizen, should stay on the voter roll, and therefore be in a position to potentially vote in a presidential election. I don't think, I don't think any non citizen should vote. How are they self identifying?

How does that happen? They actually tick a box that says I am a non citizen, where they do not answer the question that they are a citizen, and therefore they self identify that they are not a citizen in the United States of America. And this is why this is so out of bounds in my mind from the Justice Department.

They fully understand this. They understand the process starts with a person self identifying as a non citizen, and then there is a match with that person's name on the voter rolls, and they are given not just one, But up to three times in order to try to cure it. And this is why I find this to be a very unreal moment that is stunning that they filed this suit.

25 days before a presidential election, when in fact this has been going on in accordance with our constitution, the federal constitution, and state law since 2006. Yeah. Yeah, I'm at a loss for words. It's so incredibly obvious to me that only U. S. Citizens should vote because it's the Constitution.

It's, the Constitution of the United States, in each state requires that only U. S. Citizens would vote right. That's just is so obvious, right? So obviously that's the rule, and they're just following the rule, and they're being sued by the Department of Injustice. It's, it doesn't make sense.

The whole time they've always been telling us no. They can't vote. No, they can't vote. No, they can't vote. No, they can't vote. And then they say it's already legal to vote, to vote if you're a non citizen. So here you happen to have in this particular state, a mechanism where people, they didn't game the system.

They just said, no. I'm not, and they're not allowed to take them off. That's now that's nuts. That tells you evil intention right there. Again it may, it begs the question of like, why in the world they would be stopping that, right? If you want to, again, they can make the argument that, but give me a good reason why that person should stay on the voting roll.

That's what I need at this point. What is the reason for. Having this person stay on, on the voting rolls and there isn't one. And not a technicality, not a, Oh, it was two days past deadline or some crap like that. No, an honest to God reason, because it's a club, man. And it's like clubs, has its membership, privileges and they can't be for everybody. Otherwise there's no point to belonging to the club. You essentially end up making citizenship meaningless if it's me, and the reality is we shouldn't be surprised. So there are two things. One, they want a non citizens to vote, right?

Like they actually like they're, I don't know if it was here or in the country, but One of these places, they actually created legislation to give non citizens the right to vote. I think it was here in the state of Maine, but I'm not, I can't, I have to go look that up.

But are there, but there are people that are putting forth legislation in our country to allow for non citizens to have the right to vote. And it's out there in popular culture. And so this is something that they're pushing for. So if they. Believe this anyway and they also believe that it's going to help them, right?

Let's be honest. We know human nature. The reality is human nature is that people are going to do things that they shouldn't do. And if there's a way to do something and it's going to benefit them. There are going to be people that are going to want to do it and are going to do it.

That's a reality. Like the idea that they were trying to push it after 2020 that that the idea that, that voter fraud is like a problem in America is they thought that they said that was crazy because it didn't fit their narrative at the time. It fit their narrative in 2016, which they tried to say that there are all these problems.

They have, they had concerns around mail in ballots and this, that and the other thing, but all of a sudden they didn't in 2020. But the reality is human nature. People who want something are going to do it, whether it's legal or not. And so given that reality, the fact that they're pushing for this seems to suggest.

That they have, evil intent. They have the intention of breaking the law. And what's interesting too I don't know if you've been following this time. But they the main wire has been doing stuff around they, they had a whistleblower send over some information that allowed them to identify that there are people who are non citizens, both illegal and legal.

That are receiving I think it was main care and are registered to vote. It was cross referenced in the registered to vote. And vote and already voted. Yes have voted. Maybe not necessarily. We don't know if it was in this election, but they have voted in the past. We have that data.

And so people literally have voted. They've been telling us it's not happening. And, Aaron Frey, instead of looking into it and getting people who like recognizing that this data is all available to them within the state of Maine system is asking Steve Robinson to release information to him and specifically the names of the people it's look, you have access to all this data. If you guys can't do a search and figure out who these people are, then you are a fit. You're like, you're failures. Obviously somebody who works for you was able to do this and they leaked the information to the main wire. Like you have the capacity to do this and you're intentionally not doing it because you don't want it.

You don't, because then you'll have to show what you find. And the American people want to know, the people of Maine want to know what you find. They want to know how many people. And there was a letter that was written by Billy Bob. Fockingham, who is the House minority leader for the Republicans, basically saying, Hey, we, Janet Mills, we expect something to be done here.

And and we, but we we want something to be done. I think he said something along the lines that we don't expect you to necessarily to do this. But we The expectation of your job is that they should do that. If there's evidence of people voting illegally, it is the responsibility of the government to stop that.

And instead there, it sounds according to something that Steve Robinson posted, that they're looking to get these people in trouble. And Steve's making the argument that he doesn't even think these people are voting. He thinks other people are using their information and voting on their behalf.

Who knows, either way, illegal votes have been cast in the state of Maine. And what is our government doing about it? Yeah Janet Mills, if she stumbles out from her storm shelter between the second and third scotch, she might get the memo that, That some of this is going on but she could care freaking less man that woman is a train wreck I can't believe i've seen a state just deteriorate like it has with That and the trans issues we talked about the other day in six years man, and our schools are dead last it's nuts man.

It's nuts. And it's scary and And then of course, bringing in all the illegal immigrants is clearly there to tip the demographic scale so that the power is going to be the way it is. And this election is like our only hope to turn any of this around in my opinion. Still we have to do a lot of stuff locally and everything, but it's got to start, there's got to be stuff done at the federal level as well.

Absolutely. Yeah. And yeah, we got to do some stuff at the federal level. We got to do some stuff locally. First thing you can do, go out and vote. I voted today. I brought my neighbor. She's a person who is, who typically does not vote. She always talks about wanting to, but she's always stressed out about going to the polls on voting day.

I was like, we can go to the city hall today. We can vote. She's That was easy. So get out and vote. Bring a friend. You can do it. It's quick. It's easy. And one of the things that we've been talking about with that is, a lot of people are like, and actually I had another friend of mine who is a, he's one of our avid listeners to the podcast.

Not while it's live, but he listens to it afterwards. But so shout out to Adam. So when he, when I was talking to him, he was like I'm just going to go vote on, on voting day. And I was like you never know. It's like something could happen that could what if you end up having the flu on the day of the election and you just literally can't get out of bed and then you miss voting, right?

So it's really easy to go down to city hall to vote. If you haven't registered, you can register right there. Just takes a couple of minutes. You can get everything done. You can vote. And that. Again, get out, vote. That's the big picture. But yeah, we need to fix things at the local level. We need to fix things at the national level.

I was having a conversation with a friend of mine. We used to work in the financial field and people still reach out to me to ask questions about these things. And as we were having this conversation, she was sharing, she lives in California and she was sharing that she's a teacher, and they're actually bringing in.

Teachers from the Philippines, they're giving them work visas to bring them in to teach because they can't, so like on top of, illegal immigration, there's some really interesting and they're bringing them in and paying them less money than their, than they would pay Americans.

And it's really interesting. And I'm not, I understand that we have a bit of a problem here in the United States in education where teachers are having a really rough job, rough go of it. And they're leaving they're leaving. But, amongst other things, like one of the challenges about these, a lot of these teachers is that they don't teach like, in some ways, maybe this is good, but they don't have the same teaching standards over there that we have here.

So over there, it's like they're back. 40 years ago where they just give a lecture and if you don't understand it, they're like, why did you not listen? And and so like the there are a lot of problems on top of illegal immigration that we're Importing people essentially to take jobs that should be done by americans because we're losing them Because we're not taking good care of them.

Too much money in the education system goes to administration and other things and not enough of it goes to the teachers. And we've probably talked about this before, cause it's a big point of my campaign, which is, Maine is ranked right around 36th in the nation in education.

So sometimes in some cases we're ranked a 50th in some categories. But overall we're ranked somewhere between like 36th to 40 something. We also pay our teachers about the 36th most in the nation. So we're ranked right about the same place that we pay our teachers. Do you think if we pay our teachers better while not increasing the total cost, but reducing administration, there, there are a lot of strategies that we could put in place to do that, reducing the cost of administration and making sure that the money goes where it should go, which is to the teachers.

Do you think maybe we might have an improvement in our education? The Dems are also arguing for increasing the teachers, but they're not looking to reduce costs anywhere else. That's just how they operate for a Democrat. It seems like at this point, the only, there's no way to cut a budget.

You just need to increase revenue. That's what my, my. I was actually, she was talking about this because she used to be on the city committee, the school committee. And people were a lot of people were upset about taxes in the town. And she's Oh, we can't, there's really nowhere to cut. We go through that budget with a fine tooth comb.

And I'm just sorry. I don't believe I can look at a 50 million budget and say that there's nothing there to cut. Like it just I'm sorry. I've I've looked at people with a 2, 000 budget and there's places to cut. Every budget, every person, every organization has things that they can cut.

And so like the idea that the, the schools and everything that there's no way to cut spending is crazy. But that, this is what the Democrats want you to believe. There's never any fat to trim. The answer is always more money. The problem is the more you tax the people, the less the more it hurts the economy and in the long run will actually reduce the amount of taxes that are paid that there's actually like by reducing taxes, you can stimulate the economy and then the government also brings in more tax revenue anyway.

There's a, that was a little nice little rant for you. These are pet projects. A lot of these things are some of these places the monies are spent or ideological things. They're also, there's no incentive there whatsoever to look at programs that are not productive. Okay. That are just there.

The whole idea is. They can't make the budget go down because then we need that to say, yes, we spend it all. We got to spend every penny of it too. There's that phenomenon, that goes on because, you have to have that money back. And I'll tell you somebody like Elon Musk, he's going to go in there and doge it.

Just and it wouldn't take an Elon Musk. Okay. I'll tell you, I could do, or you could do a great job to go in there and just go. All right. Bring the books in here. Let's sit down, man. Get the coffee, go get the donuts, and we're not getting out of here until we pretty much get an idea of where all the money's going.

And I tell you, man, you could definitely relocate, allocate funds into different places, but, Absolutely. Everybody's gonna get their pet projects, stepped on, and this, that, and the other thing. And And people don't want that. And plus, like I said, you're going to also find out the scary places that they spend money, which is on they really don't want to advertise.

Yeah. I'm Keltra and things like that, which I think is not a, not an official program at the moment, but it wasn't an official program in the past. I'm talking about like the books and the transing and the ideological. There's that too, but there, that type of thing. Yep. That's what I'm talking about.

They're spending a lot of money, like the school committees and the school boards and whatnot around the state are spending a lot of money on DEI. But talking about cutting spending, I was having a conversation with someone recently who's former military, and he was basically saying that if you told these like platoon leaders or whatever the sergeants or that they needed to do the exact same training that they're doing now, but at a substantially lower cost.

But that you would give those people the people running that program like a bonus for cutting the budget, they would easily be able to do that because he was saying how many, how much he threw away, how much stuff every single year that was good and usable. And he didn't need a new one that they were throwing away.

So the idea again, Anybody who's worked for the government and is paying attention, anybody who's been involved in the military knows that there's a substantial amount of waste. It doesn't mean there are things that we need to spend money for, right? There are things that don't need to be cut, but there are things that absolutely can be cut.

And the idea that, that this is crazy, like the idea that we can actually, that they're set, they're basically. Presenting that the only solution is more revenue when any other perspective is like simple minded and ignorant is absolutely wild to me. Because again, like we have examples of ways that we can cut spending.

And again, you talk about pet projects, like right now, a lot of the things that they're proposing, like we talk about these bond issues, right? Every year there are bond issues. And. People are not going to listen to me. They're probably going to vote. Yes. They're like, yeah, sure. Let's take on some more debt by the state.

Let's just vote in favor of all these bond issues. We're at a place right now where because of the rise in inflation, everybody's having to pay closer attention to where they spend their money and yet the government's not us. We're just going to keep, we're just going to keep spending more money.

We're going to try to issue more debt at a time where everybody else is having to cut their spending do you understand? Like you also, Oh, government have to recognize that you need to slow down sometimes that right now is not a time to. To increase taxes on people who already are struggling to survive.

There are, again, there are essential services that need to be maintained, but there's a lot that can be cut and it needs to be, especially in the current environment where everybody else is struggling, you can't tax them to death, it will. It will harm the economy in really horrific ways. And people just aren't paying attention.

We need more transparency and we need audits and we need to see these audits because the federal, the government a number of agencies including the the the Pentagon, right? Cannot pass even their own internal audits. Okay. This is another fun thing. Corruption is something I didn't bring up, like talking about looking at the school budget, how much corruption is there?

Like how many people get a certain contract to the school district to do this, that, and the other thing. And it's this buddy or that buddy, and it's overpriced and there's kickbacks and go all that shit going on. Yeah, sure. Tons of that. And then to go back to the military and the Pentagon Ethan Alcorn, I was actually surprised in watching the debate, with Shelley and Ron Russell, Ethan Alcorn on, in some cases he sounded like he was a little bit like he was having a hard time, thinking on the spot.

I don't think he's like a professional public speaker and stuff like that. So if you were not paying close attention, you might be like, Oh, that guy doesn't look like he knows what's going on. But when you actually heard the content of what he was saying, he made a lot of sense. And, this was one of the areas where he was talking about.

They're like, where are you going to cut the budget? And it's first of all, like we don't all have access to the budget. So how can somebody who's running for political office know exactly in us Congress where they're going to be able to cut the budget? That's number one, right?

That's just, do you understand how silly that is? And as he pointed out. The, they keep failing their audit. Like every single year the Pentagon fails its audit. So we don't even know where money is going every single year. There's money that goes missing. It just goes missing.

So how can he tell you where to cut it? First of all, we need to get an audit where they pass. We need to figure out where all this money's going and people and heads need to roll, people need to be fired. If they can't account for where that money's going, they need to go right. And we need to figure out where this waste is happening and where the money's going that it shouldn't be going.

And so anyway, like I said he made a lot of. Really good points. I think, Ron Russell was basically like, we need to cut the budget, but we need to spend more money on military. And I'm like, Nope, I'm not really with you there. And Shelly Pingree was just like we need to raise taxes on the super rich, a typical, Democrat approach tax, and not really much content outside of that. Nothing about there being any way that we can, cut spending. And ethan Alcorn actually made some really good points. If you haven't gone and watched it, go and watch it. It's it's on YouTube somewhere. I have a short clip on my X page Chuck Ellis, 1983.

Feel free to check it out there too, but yeah, it's crazy. The waste in our country and, here in the state of Maine as well. It's fun to going out and going door to door. One of my we didn't really do a lot of door to door, but like we were putting up some signs and somebody, a lot of people don't know the laws, and I was talking about this this is also a law that I don't know that you can put up lawn signs in water in a water called like public public, essentially public. What's called public spaces, right? And if you own a house and that house your lawn goes and there's a sidewalk and on the other side of the sidewalk, right?

There's a patch of grass. You don't own that patch of grass, it's on the other side of the sidewalk, it might be out in front of your house and you might not like the idea, for instance, that there's a lawn sign of a politician that you don't like there. But the reality is you're not legally allowed to take that sign and do anything with it.

So we had somebody try and tell us that we couldn't put that on his property. And it's this is actually not your property. This is the state, this is city property. And then there was this argument and debate and we ended up putting it down in front of somebody else's house. But there was this conversation about in addition to people not knowing the laws like that one, there's this conversation about one of the comments I remember was that the Republicans just care about the rich and it's I'm so tired of this right now because this is 15 years ago.

The reality is if the Republicans cared about the rich. The greedy rich that people are all mad at, then why are 80 percent of the wealthiest people in the world and the wealthiest neighborhoods in the United States of America, why are they all giving boatloads of money to the Democrats?

Exactly. Help me understand that. They just, it's just because they care about climate change. Okay. If the Republicans were doing it, it's not, it's just greed, but if they're doing it to help the Democrats, it's because they believe in the ideology. I'm sorry. I don't buy it. If you do maybe get your head examined.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Three quarters of the money is fully now on the Democrat side. All the money for big business, most of the dark money, all that stuff. But of course the Democrats playbook always is projection. They always project upon us. For example, right now, if you're following the presidential campaign, apparently, according to the Harris campaign, Donald Trump is, he's wearing himself out.

He's not, he doesn't have the stamina to make it. He's canceling interviews. He's hiding out. He wants to avoid the press. And I'm like, What are you talking about, man? You guys are lunatics. He's out there cooking and slinging fries, man. Yeah. Did you see the meme that, that had Donald Trump with a roller, like a paint roller and it doesn't say McDonald's anymore.

It just says Donald's. Yeah, no, yeah. He's out there, like he's And one of my favorite things from the little clips that I saw of that is like he gave somebody some food and they're like, wow, this is just so great that you're coming here doing this for ordinary people like us.

And he's you're not ordinary. You're not ordinary. You're like, this is his attitude and his mantra. Like the guy has flaws. I get it. But he actually really does care about the average person more so than any other politician I've ever I can think of any other president that I've seen in my lifetime.

And so somebody said it was staged, man. It was like totally staged. I was like, yeah. He's a former president. We're two weeks away from election. The people are vetted. They came through the line. What are you telling me? The Democrats never stage anything. We've never seen anyone on a sound set or, any of that stuff.

They're more orchestrated than anything. Okay. Oh yeah. Those were normal people. He was talking to this lady, Brazilian lady comes to, she says, please make sure that this country don't make like Brazil. Please, Mr. President. Okay. Yeah. And he was just charming, just like he always is and I think they're doing a good job this time.

Getting that out there, not to mention was really an awesome line to say. I have now officially worked at McDonald's. 15 minutes longer than Kamala Harris. No that's great. He's got to get the jabs in. That's just his personality. Yeah. But but I get a couple of body shots in, but I think that hopefully they're doing a better job.

They're putting him in different places. Like he did that town hall with all women, which I think was very good and very productive and everything. And the more that she gets out there, she's just shrew and vapid. Okay. There's nothing there. And the more she talks, the, we've been keeping an eye on the poly market trend.

Let me see what's going on over there and see if I can find it. Let me see. Where is it at? What is that a poly market trend? What's that? Yeah. We've been watching poly market. It's the betting markets. And yeah. And so let me see if I can find it. I had it this morning. There it is. I'll refresh it and let you know where it is.

This last time I checked it was 61. 7. Let's do a refresh. So Donald Trump is slated to win the election still 61. 6 percent to 38. 2 percent for Kamala. So he's doing very well. It's up 1. 7%. That's good. But he's, and so what's interesting is they're still calling it a close race. Chuck, they're saying that he's only favored to win the popular vote by 38 percent to 62.

So it's actually almost flipped over on its head. So very interesting. It's really interesting. Cause I think too I've been talking about this with a couple of people in, including my wife, cause she's, despite the fact that she's still in, in Kenya, she's very engaged in American politics.

And as many of them over there are actually, and many of them favor Donald Trump, but But she's very interested in engaged, especially in my race, she's actually going to be making a little a little campaign video for me that I'm going to, I'm going to get the post soon. And but anyway, we were talking about this and there are two reasons basically that somebody shows up to vote for a candidate, right?

And the number one reason is because they like them, like that they actually like that candidate, right? The second reason is because they really hate. Or they dislike enough the other candidate that's enough to get them out to vote. So on Donald Trump's side, you have that people love him and you have that people hate and can't stand.

Right on the other side, not so much, nobody really, I don't like maybe her family loves her. Maybe. But I I've not I've not heard anybody who's actually rational and making any sense and not just trying to convince themselves, that actually likes Kamala Harris.

In fact, Kamala Harris knows that you don't like Kamala Harris, which is why her response as to why that you should vote for her is because Donald Trump, like her whole mantra is, I'm not Donald Trump, right? And She doesn't have anything more to offer.

And so people who vote for her will vote for her because she is not Donald Trump. They will not vote for her because they like her. So she's only got people that are anti Trump voting for her. Whereas he's got people who love him and don't like her. And so I think that's going to lead, I'm hoping. That's going to lead to people not showing up to the polls who would have otherwise voted voted for her.

And in using that logic, there's a really good chance. I think I would say that he's going to win this election and I think he's going to, it's going to look more a landslide if you get out to vote, if you don't get out to vote. There's another story. Get out to vote. So we need to make sure we get out there. We cast our votes. But as long as that happens, I think he wins. I think he wins handily. And it could also here in the state of Maine, have a second chance. Because if something like that happens where a lot, where you don't have a lot high voter turnout from the people who would normally vote Democrat you could have a lot of these house and Senate races be skewed to the right as a result of that, which is what I'm hoping for.

In, in 2022, we thought we were going to have this really big red wave and we didn't. And one of the most significant factors was Republicans didn't show up to vote. So you heard that on this podcast before I think I've been telling people maybe that they should get out and vote.

Is that right? Yeah, I think once or twice. Yeah, man. But, I tell you, but why wouldn't you want to vote for this? You think you just fell out of a coconut tree? This is why people don't love her, right? You hear this. No, we didn't just find if that I would vote in favor of that.

If it was part of a comedy show. Yeah, I would vote. Now, I don't know if you saw the latest barrage, and it's about a dozen times she's said it, and she looks real angry, and I think she did it with said that with Brett Baier, but not as angry, is that he can never, ever become president and be behind this seal again, and of course she's doing it, and that shrill, shrieking thing that she has, where she's going into falsetto like Obama is, and I'm like going, And people in the back, they were listening to Obama the other day, and Obama's talking, and they're all going like this.

It was weird, because they're all spending their money on Amazon for the gift card they got in weigh in. Because they don't really want to be there, right? You go to a Trump rally, people are like, WAAAAAAH, you just don't have the enthusiasm. No, the voter enthusiasm gap, and I think the biggest way that we've seen that is the which poll is it?

Is it Reuters? Reuters. I think who says who voter identification is way up for Republicans. Okay. And that is people identifying as saying, I am not this, but this, and that doesn't count all the people that are Democrat. They're going to go in there and go like this,

push the button for Donald Trump. Cause I'm convinced there are still people out there. People are bolder now. They're wearing their red hats more than they ever have. I see that more. But still, it's not as bold as it could be. Like, for example, you're talking about signs out here locally. I don't have a sign to put out.

But there's nothing in St. Albans. Yeah, man. Yeah, man. I could use one. We don't have nothing in St. Albans. We got a nice little place there where they got the flag and the little baby library they got there. And we can just stick it right up there, man. I might could get you some signs. Yeah. Give me a couple of signs, man.

We need them bad here. We got nothing. Zeroes. Yeah. The part of the problems down here is again, people keep putting them up and then people keep taking them down. I've been helping in Westbrook distributing them around both in public spaces and on people's yards. I'll find my trap cam, dude.

I will find my trap cam. I'll put out the sign. I was actually, I was really disappointed. I went to somebody. Somebody that I'd initially delivered a sign to was like, yeah, they stole my sign. Can you bring another? And I'm like, yep, I'll be over. And he was telling me that he had a camera and he'd recorded it and he, I think he had put at one point posted it to Facebook, but then he had pulled it down and his wife had deleted the photo and I'm like, no, the video.

And I'm like, no, I would have loved that. I would have posted that to the internet. Like they found a stack, they found a stack of Trump signs behind a Democrat office. In one of the offices in Maine somewhere. I don't know which one it was. I can't remember the life of it. But yeah, they found a stack right all neatly piled up behind the Democratic office.

Yep. Yep. They cheat, man. They cheat. It's I've thought about, there's a couple of places around here, they got that stupid Hillary, when they invented that hate has no home here. Except for hating Christians and conservatives, so they're like, and I like look at it and they got a whole line of them, like six or eight of them.

It's just right, just off the shoulder, man. I could have got a Jeep. I could go. And they'd be gone in a second. I wouldn't have to look at them no more. But I'm like going, no, you can't do that, man. They do that. That's not what we do. I'm not saying that there's not one or two people on the Republican side that would not, that would go out and do that.

But when you look at it across the board, so much more often it's the Democrats who are doing that, that are taking down Trump stuff. My, what I heard is that there's some little old lady that had gone around in the middle of the night and taken a whole bunch of Trump signs down off of people's lawns and public spaces here in Westbrook doing it too.

Yeah, city workers doing it too. Man, when I was a kid, I burned a campaign sign on someone's lawn. I spent a week in juvie for that crap. Yeah. Yeah. And when you can get a fine for it here, but people are just not getting caught cause they're, and then unfortunately when you do have a video of somebody, it gets it gets deleted.

But anyway, yeah, no it's the party of I like to call it the party of peace and love as they tout themselves to be are only peaceful and loving. If you agree with them, if you disagree with them, they, and this is not every single Democrat, obviously, but again, we're making, gross generalizations, which is what we do and at large, that's the type of behavior that you're seeing.

Like you, there's been no video that I've seen of a Republican. Like grabbing a Harris sign and stabbing it. I have not seen that video, but we do have a video of a woman, like viciously stabbing a Trump sign. I'm not sure how you think that helps in any way, lady. Maybe you should go see your doctor.

Yeah. It's the Ask your ex, ask your doctor about Paxil and Wellbutrin. Ha. Yeah, or you could look up Nicole Shanahan's video. It helps with TDS and, you could experience independence. The drug of common sense independence. But but yeah, it's it's It's just an interesting time.

It's funny. I think I've been sending out some things. I talked about it a couple of weeks ago now about I'd sent something out or my campaign on the issue of transgenderism and I had it had been a lot of like pushback and stuff like that. And I was feeling like stressed because I don't like people hating me.

I want to be loved by everybody, and I've been thinking a lot about that. And number one, I'm feeling a lot more, I'm having a lot more fun just being like, I am the resistance to the insanity that's going on down here. And if they want to hate me and be mad at me, I don't care.

But also if they want to hate me for standing up for children. It's far worse what's happening to children than what's happening, than a couple of people disliking me. And come at me. I don't care. I just, I'm, I've, the social conditioning that they've put into me, partly through my job and through all these other places it's being eroded as I step out and follow what I believe it is that God is calling me to do.

And I am, I'm shedding the weight of their social conditioning. And I have to admit that even though like I knew what was going on and I knew that it was wrong, a lot of my behavior was still dictated. I was still that guy and probably still am to the, at the moment. And I need to work on this, that if I'm in a restaurant talking about this in Portland, I'm talking quietly and it's like, why they're not talking quietly.

Why shouldn't I just say what I believe? I'm not attacking anyone. I'm not going after anyone. I'm just speaking what I believe to be the truth, which is what they're doing. And they feel fine about it, but they try to condition us and make us feel bad because they're going to go after us. And they're going to try to make our lives miserable.

And I just don't care at this point, come at me, leave the kids alone. Yeah, man is always have your camera. They're ready to hit record in case somebody overhears your conversation in that restaurant, because that's the day and age we live in. But. My wife and I do that when I go on into public, I tell you, I've been in this space for a while and my wife is more like you and so we'll be just sitting there, blah, blah, blah, blah, and I'll be talking and she's keep your voice down and I'm like, why?

Okay, I'm in here and I'm thinking to myself, what if somebody overhears me, maybe they need to hear that and, whatever it's I'm not going to live my life in fear, but you're right. It's and it's. And it's that oppressive thing everywhere, and I think people are shaking it off, right?

And I think one of the things we've talked about is that whole thing is language, I've been sorting my way through all of this, okay? But I also realize that Christians have been fooled into thinking that we're supposed to be nice. Or, if we get angry and we say something, and then they go you're not supposed to use language like that, you're a Christian, and we go oh, you're right.

And we retreat into what their definition is. And it puts us in a box and now their boxes. Hey, you don't want to be doing that stuff outside the walls of that church, man. You go and worship inside where we can't see you. It's nah, that ain't the way it's supposed to be salt light, buddy.

That's what we're here for. It's it's interesting. And It takes, how old are you? Yeah, I'm about to be 41. Actually. Yeah. Yeah. You still got some time to, to mature. It takes a while, man. It does. It's something we're all a work in progress, right? I'm learning things at 62 years old.

Still, humble pie, I'll tell you, my challengers are just different, I think a lot of ways to overcome this stuff, right? Is just to hang out with people who just don't care. And I don't mean don't care in like a negative sense, like they would do bad things, but aren't so aren't worried about what other people might think about them.

And there, there's this guy that me and my buddy Ryan are friends with and he's been going out with us. His name is Vance. He works at the post office. People ask him because his science, his name says Vance. They're like, you're not voting for him. And he's Are you kidding? I absolutely am.

And he is just so who he is, wherever he goes that I would, that, that whole kind of me feeling cautious and uncomfortable, which is still there to a little bit going out to a restaurant with him, he's not only as he like wearing, some MAGA stuff, but he's also and people don't know what to do with him because he's like a, I don't know, six, two or whatever black guy in his sixties and he just doesn't care.

And he's just. Loudly saying, truth in a restaurant and you'd think that we'd get more backlash. But in fact, what happens is like either people don't say anything or the person that ends up saying something, but Go Trump fight, and like just being around somebody who just doesn't care, and he's a nice guy though.

When he engages with people, we actually went to some doors with him and he's just, he's really polite, but he is also like, why in the world would you vote for that woman? What has she ever done? What are her credentials? How has she earned this? And he does it in a way that's like really polite, but he's just.

firmly who he is and like I think this is one of the things like we learn so much more through interactions with other people than we do by reading books. And so if you need to grow in a particular area, hang out with somebody who doesn't need to grow in that area. So hang out with somebody who is really good at that and it'll, it can help.

So anyway, that's been one of the fun things for me going around and doing, putting up these Trump signs around Westbrook. We got it. We got a bunch more too. So we're going to have some more fun. Have you ever heard that song between I think it's Toby Keith and who's the other one that sings a hillbilly bone.

You ever seen the video to hillbilly bone, get your hillbilly bone on. You got to, after you leave this, you got to Blake Shelton is playing Shelton and I think Toby Keith. And they said, go into this swanky restaurant. And of course, they're hillbillies, and they sing this song, get your hillbilly bone on it.

Everybody's like looking at him, giving him funny looks. Of course, by the end of the video, everybody's laughing and dancing and woohoo and having a good time because it's like secretly inside, everybody's really like with you, right? And I like, like you're talking about, it's really nice to be with a person that's like that and to go, look, I just don't care, and not be a jerk for Jesus or be a jerk for Trump and out there in people's faces, but just be you, right?

Yeah, it's time to start taking that ground back, right? Yeah, we need, if there's one, one last thing outside of vote, vote that I would leave people with today is like we need more people to stand up. It doesn't mean you need to be a jerk, right? It doesn't mean you don't need to be a jerk to stand up for truth.

You just need to not continually take it. Not have them continually be berating you. We're seeing it in in the court cases where these people who are fired for instance, not using pronouns, they're winning lawsuits because it's illegal, they cannot discriminate against you for your religious beliefs or your values, which is essentially what they're doing.

I don't agree with that. I don't believe it. I'm not going to use the pronouns that you prefer simply because you tell me, you try to force me to do it. I'd be more likely to do it. If you asked me and you were kind, I'm not going to do it. I won't do it at all. And I'll tell you why. Okay. Because here's the thing you we've all seen 1984.

Okay, to use your preferred pronoun, okay, is no different than saying, it's called compelled speech, is no different than the state says two and two equals five. Yep. You will now say, when you say two plus two, you will say five. And it's, you think that's way different, but those two things are identical because they're both compelled speech.

And that's very dangerous place to be. And so we need more people. I know that you're worried about your job and this, that, and the other thing, but guess what? If you get fired over this, there is a lawsuit, right? You can you can, I don't love suing people, but if they fire you for something like this, or if they continue to give you a hard time about it, that's on them.

And, they're paying, there's pain along the way, but there's a lot more pain if we continue to give into that, to their, the social pressures and, the ways in which they're trying to, compel our speech and our action and all these other things. And so we need to stand up, not just vote.

We also need to stand up and we also need to engage as I like to say with our neighbors and build relationships with people. And that's the way that we take back our country. We take back our country. So I agree. That's all I have. I don't know if you've got anything else for the people.

True slinger. We do have a special, another special guest pretty soon. We're just going to call them guests. Rather than special guests, but we will have another special guest with us. Next on Thursday. He's a current legislator. He's from the town of Madison. He actually, I used to play football with his son.

Cause I graduated from Madison high known him for many years. And he's a, yeah, he's one of the house reps from up there and he'll be with us. And we'll have some fun questions for him and let him talk. And the show will be more about him than us. Like we did with our previous guests. So I'm looking forward to that.

Yeah. Send me his information so I can do a little better job promoing and we'll get some information out. And hopefully was can see it promoted for us and we'll have a good time on Thursday at four Eastern Standard Time So it was good as always Chuck. I enjoyed it. The banter was great Always good. I always learned something talking to you.

You keep up the good work out there keep campaigning And if anybody wants to help Chuck again, he is at Chuck Ellis 1983 on X. My name is Tim. I am your truth slinger and Chuck's producer and that over day is your swamp guy, Chuck Ellis. We will see you next time. Good night.

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